Comments on: OK, Feed Readers Have to Grow Up http://www.blackrimglasses.com/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/ Music + Technology + Random Nonsense from the Music Industry by Ethan Kaplan, VP Product, Live Nation Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:55:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris Weige http://www.blackrimglasses.com/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-192166 Chris Weige Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:35:58 +0000 http://blackrimglasses.com/archives/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/#comment-192166 More than meets the eye (a reblog). The discourse is on a need to know basis. "Phatic Communion" is an obscure phrase first used in the 1920s by the anthropologist Bronislaw Malinowski in the book The Meaning of Meaning (1923) to describe unacknowledged communication networks among tribes, the archetypal cliches that are embedded so deeply in the culture that no one even realizes they exist. It can also be described as a form of communication where the verbal content is not intended literally; its true meaning, in fact, is completely different from the content of the message. More than meets the eye (a reblog).
The discourse is on a need to know basis.

“Phatic Communion” is an obscure phrase first used in the 1920s by the anthropologist Bronislaw Malinowski in the book The Meaning of Meaning (1923) to describe unacknowledged communication networks among tribes, the archetypal cliches that are embedded so deeply in the culture that no one even realizes they exist. It can also be described as a form of communication where the verbal content is not intended literally; its true meaning, in fact, is completely different from the content of the message.

]]> By: mipovia http://www.blackrimglasses.com/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-192017 mipovia Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:41:25 +0000 http://blackrimglasses.com/archives/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/#comment-192017 the only thing i ended up knowing from my reader is that there's just "too much" information for one person to learn about. let's implement that. the only thing i ended up knowing from my reader is that there’s just “too much” information for one person to learn about. let’s implement that.

]]> By: Nate http://www.blackrimglasses.com/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-192010 Nate Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:58:40 +0000 http://blackrimglasses.com/archives/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/#comment-192010 I use Google Reader and I love it. I use Google Reader and I love it.

]]> By: Ted Murphy http://www.blackrimglasses.com/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-192007 Ted Murphy Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:56:24 +0000 http://blackrimglasses.com/archives/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/#comment-192007 I like your two ideas for a more intelligent feed reader (offering similar content links to every post?) and one that learns (put the most-read blogs up top? put the posts most similar to previous clickthroughs at the top of every individual blog rss?) are both very good. There should be a simple, killer app embedded in there somewhere. I like your two ideas for a more intelligent feed reader (offering similar content links to every post?) and one that learns (put the most-read blogs up top? put the posts most similar to previous clickthroughs at the top of every individual blog rss?) are both very good. There should be a simple, killer app embedded in there somewhere.

]]> By: JamesSpratt.org http://www.blackrimglasses.com/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-191996 JamesSpratt.org Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:26:20 +0000 http://blackrimglasses.com/archives/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/#comment-191996 I think you're problem is in your first paragraph - "a few hundred feeds"! That's just nuts. Be selective. You don't NEED to consume that amount of info. I use Google Reader and it's still working for me really well. I think you’re problem is in your first paragraph – “a few hundred feeds”! That’s just nuts. Be selective. You don’t NEED to consume that amount of info. I use Google Reader and it’s still working for me really well.

]]> By: Dempsey http://www.blackrimglasses.com/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-191915 Dempsey Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:09:08 +0000 http://blackrimglasses.com/archives/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/#comment-191915 I'm not in total disagreement with you, just partial. I too am weary of my RSS feeds, but I still find the value to be high. " * RSS depends on the quality of the feed - ArsTechnica is a shitty blog. There, I said it. They assume I want to go to their website. I do not. I don’t have time to. I want to consume their content at my leisure on devices of my choosing. I don’t want one paragraph. I want the content!" Partial feeds don't bother me and make for easier scanning (personal preference). I have to just your post just on the title so I may be missing some interesting stuff from you. But ultimately, I want to read it in my reader. " * Blogs are a culture of reblogging" - One word: unsubscribe. I've pared down to GigaOm and Ars (main articles/Apple section). They cover the big important news. The others you mention are all crap. " * Most posts aren’t worth reading - The ratio is maybe 100:1 in terms of worthy discourse." Isn't that the killer app of RSS readers? Get updates without visiting websites and know what's being discussed without reading. " * Feed Readers are dumb - * Feed Readers are based on feed, not content - " Have you checked what the pressflip guys have been doing? It is web-based, but from what I could tell the last time I tried it they're aiming for a smart, content based news retrieval system. After I check it out again, I'll report back. (insert winking smiley here) I’m not in total disagreement with you, just partial. I too am weary of my RSS feeds, but I still find the value to be high.

” * RSS depends on the quality of the feed – ArsTechnica is a shitty blog. There, I said it. They assume I want to go to their website. I do not. I don’t have time to. I want to consume their content at my leisure on devices of my choosing. I don’t want one paragraph. I want the content!”

Partial feeds don’t bother me and make for easier scanning (personal preference). I have to just your post just on the title so I may be missing some interesting stuff from you. But ultimately, I want to read it in my reader.

” * Blogs are a culture of reblogging” –

One word: unsubscribe. I’ve pared down to GigaOm and Ars (main articles/Apple section). They cover the big important news. The others you mention are all crap.

” * Most posts aren’t worth reading – The ratio is maybe 100:1 in terms of worthy discourse.”

Isn’t that the killer app of RSS readers? Get updates without visiting websites and know what’s being discussed without reading.

” * Feed Readers are dumb –
* Feed Readers are based on feed, not content – ”

Have you checked what the pressflip guys have been doing? It is web-based, but from what I could tell the last time I tried it they’re aiming for a smart, content based news retrieval system. After I check it out again, I’ll report back. (insert winking smiley here)

]]> By: shyam http://www.blackrimglasses.com/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-191910 shyam Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:22:25 +0000 http://blackrimglasses.com/archives/2008/10/08/ok-feed-readers-have-to-grow-up/#comment-191910 Ethan, The current alogs/models of clustering/recommendation does not adapt well to the desktop model. Entropy issues involved in both are entirely different kettles of fish from each other, not to mention computationally awful, irrespective of how fast your Mac is at this point in time. Ethan,

The current alogs/models of clustering/recommendation does not adapt well to the desktop model. Entropy issues involved in both are entirely different kettles of fish from each other, not to mention computationally awful, irrespective of how fast your Mac is at this point in time.

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